MikeshÃ‚Â´s art

Sat's not an artist. Either the wrist or beginings of the fingers lie in line with the crotch when arms and back are straight.

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What makes you think I am not an artist?

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I believe you've told me as much. Plus, if you were, you'd be helping on the mascot instead of just puppet-mastering it.

To digress, Mikesh, your hands are very good, and aside from seeming slightly too small, so are your feet. Hands and feet are hard.

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Ugh, did you know that Sat has certificates for every graphic program from Adobe and for PaintShopPro?

Look, this is a simple matter of anatomy, and readily resolved.

hxxp://www.geocities.com/greyworth/props.html

I can do this with just about any other image (provided hands and back are straight), and the line'll fall on the hand somewhere.

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Well, feather I never said that your not right cus you are right, but IÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´m learned like this...ItÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s because of elbows. They should be in the same line as waist and forearm is long like upper arm.
...and it always ends like this! Sad

But I can try a different style. ItÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s all about attempts. But till itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s not disgusting anybody donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t need to fight with anybody. Advice is enough. Wink

...maybe I draw too little lap. Confused

Just look at this pick. Now she have an extremly long hands! XD
Yes, I drew this pick.

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Mikesh:
Well, feather I never said that your not right cus you are right, but IÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´m learned like this...ItÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s because of elbows. They should be in the same line as waist and forearm is long like upper arm.
...and it always ends like this! :( But I can try a different style. ItÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s all about attempts. But till itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s not disgusting anybody donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t need to fight with anybody. Advice is enough. :wink:

...maybe I draw too little lap. :? Just look at this pick. Now she have an extremly long hands! XD
Yes, I drew this pick.

Well, checking on myself (and on those pics I used earlier), the elbow does indeed fall just about where hip meets torso. The issue does seem to be the length from waist to crotch. In the first pic, that's it exactly; the crotch needs to move down. Looking at the second pic, the hips/butt on the right side should be higher, and a little longer.

If the body, from collar to loin, constitutes a unit, then the line where upper and lower meet (where the elbow would fall) is about halfway down.

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The link you posted just confirms what I said.
Ceritificates aside, I can draw fairly well, but I don't like to do it as its time consuming.

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Sat:
Arms reach somewhere along the middle between hips and knees.

feather:
The hands should actually be about level with the crotch.

No, it doesn't. And the longer the legs in proportion to the rest of the body, the further down the red line goes.

Meanwhile, Mikesh and I have moved on, and are actually discussing his artwork.

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Actually you're both right, it has to do with age. When you're lolier, the midline will fall anywhere between the belly button and just above the crotch. At puberty/maturity, the midline is just a scoonch above the crotch, so a loli is best drawn with her hands about equal to her crotch, wheras a full grown woman's arms fall about midway between her crotch and her knees: however that's idealistic, sometimes it doesn't actually turn out that way. Also, in anime, the legs are generally longer than the upper half of the body of a figure, whereas in actuality they're about as long.

ANYWAY, keep up the good work there Mikesh.

Feather, thanks for the lessons, but please donÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t edit my pictures...itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s little weird feeling...sorry. Embarassed

Well, I know that hands are ending in the first third of thighs. IÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ll try to draw something. OK?

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~.~' Sorry.

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Mikesh, your second pic is much better than the first tho a totally different pose. Proportions are nice, her balance is natural, you even have a reasonable idea of perspective. And, most importantly she is so sexy. Razz

Let's not forget that lolis are fantasies, and not always realistic. Wink

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Well, she's my cutie, my tutti frutti, my heart, my love, my bathing
beauty.

Another older picture drew in school during the Physic class.
Yeh feather, still against your style...=.=

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I've done that. Just so long as no one see's you drawing it 9 . 9

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