That second one looks like a movie I have called Andorora, excpet mine is low-quality and censored. If you can get a high-quality version, let me know.
Thx for your info Electricus. Lucky for us, i have found it on AniDB, and here is the link: hxxp://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4255&expandall=1
I also found it on a hungarian private FTP server, unfortunately for you it only accepts connections from Hungary.
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