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HavocAngel
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Like this for instance. I drew it freehand (i think that's what it's called) while looking at this:
hxxp://elis.imouto.org/image/1b2386407bffde161e2c1c570e097df8/moe%2074309%20harada_takehito%20marona%20phantom_brave.jpg
also, what do you think?
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| Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:09 am |
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Tkitty
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freehand work like that counts as something I've been paid to do in the past. It's called reproduction. Copying tends to imply tracing or exactly that, copying.
If you can develop the skill well it's actually a good first step in learning to draw your own stuff better. It's a common method of self education that works great as long as you take mental notes on stuff like anatomy as you work.
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| Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:45 am |
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thanks for the comment, Tkitty 
I have looked back at it a couple times since i posted it, and there are a lot of "wavy" lines, mainly because when I draw like that, I like to do it a bit fast, i think.
I do like doing it so far, though. Maybe i'll get better at it?
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| Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:46 pm |
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I've basicly spent 95% of all my drawing time looking at a picture by someone else and remaking it. I break it down in to pieces, try to scale it out the same...
It's the same concept as just looking at an object and trying to draw it, and a great way to improve fast for beginners (given that you actually understand what you're doing by breaking down the picture in to pieces), but for the longest time, I was stuck only being able to draw from other peoples pictures... so I'd say try to keep doing it for practice, but never forget to make your own art and DRAW WHAT YOU FEEL!
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| Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:48 pm |
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HavocAngel
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this one i did without looking at an image, something simple
i need to start drawing bodies 
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| Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:27 am |
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HavocAngel
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I guess i must not be that good yet 
Oh well, i'll keep trying anyways
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Ok, I'll comment.
I think anyone who says it's cheating to copy from another picture is talking out of their arse. There's nothing wrong at all about using an outside source for inspiration. That's been one of the founding concepts of art for thousands of years.
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| Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:44 pm |
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Thanks, Electricus
That was very enlightening and thoughtful =P
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| Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:22 am |
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I don't see anything wrong in copying another artwork. The difference is in whether you seek to make money off the copied piece. Or if you use it in public and the originator asks you to stop.
EDIT: I forgot to add that your drawings look pretty good. It's good to practice with other sketches/pictures to get a feel of the human form.
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| Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:51 am |
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If copying was in some way shape or form not allowed, all artists would be out of business.
Don't worry about what 'counts'. What counts is that you are drawing and practicing. Anyone who says otherwise is not an artist and can be ignored/mocked.
Now, if you're tracing, that's kinda another subject. Unless you're under the age of 10, and haven't fully developed fine muscle movement yet, there is no practical benefit to tracing. If that were the case, you wouldn't be here. 
Anyway, I have nothing useful to say about this attempt. Just keep drawing. Every day if possible.
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| Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:39 am |
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If you want to get better... the only real way is to study... very very very few people have the ability to just pic up a pencil and draw what they see, if they've never done it before.
I would suggest googling some how to draw anime/manga website and learn how to break down the steps.
There's a reason why and how the character in anime look (goes for any type of art)...
What you're just trying to draw what you see without any structure, which is why it seems very messy.
Learn anatomy and structure and your work will progress fast. Goodluck!
*edit* I timed myself on this.... I made this picture/tutorial for you in 10 minutes lol
Hopefully this will help, this is the same girl from the first picture, I'm aware it has problems of its own, but I'm hoping this will show you some steps to making a more structured drawing.
*double edit* You should also make note that the way I drew this would be "incorrect" for most people. I made the face too large for the circle and the hair should have been closer to it head (if I hadn't messed up). I made the mistake of drawing the face too large so I corrected it by drawing the hair farther away from the head.
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| Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:42 am |
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Forsaken the Benevolent strikes again! lol. He made a bunch of tutorials for me, too! So don't feel alone. And don't feel bad for practicing your art by mimicing another's. Even Aristotle said that the forst step to becoming is to have someone to mimic. Eventually, your mimic is perfect, and that is when you are able to branch out and create your own. He was speaking about anything in general, but if he says it is ok, then no worries right? He was a very smart man! lol. Nice work, and don't give up =)
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| Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:37 am |
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Forsaken the Benevolent strikes again!
lmao! Not quite XD
It hard to learn something.... and it's even harder if there's no one to help you understand what you need to practice and why.
I've been playing guitar for 6 years and had no one to teach me, eventually I damaged my wrist, now I'll probably never be able to play any more then an hour a day w/o it hurting =( So I always try to help people understand the construction of learning something. I'm sort of like Jesus.... but I love loli's!!!.... XD hahaha
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| Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:48 pm |
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Thanks everybody for your comments
Forsaken, so far, what I enjoy doing (testing myself to do) is just start with a blank peice of paper, use an non-erasable media (pen ink) and just try to make it look the best as possible.
I guess if i started with a light pencil, i may be able to structure my replicas better?
Two points that I normally start with are the chin, and the eyes. that way I have a base for the rest of the head, nose, mouth, and then hair.
This one I know the eyes look like shit on but it took me about 8 minutes to do.
hxxp://moe.imouto.org/post/show/85325/loli-nipples-photoshop-range_murata
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| Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:31 pm |
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The problem with using a pen at such an early point in your artwork:
1) you're probably not going to be happy with the results of the picture, which would discourage MOST people. This isn't a problem if you're still happy with what ever outcome you might have.
2) you're preventing yourself from learning the structure and guidelines that teach you how to "animate" a character and make them feel realistic (even if it's a cartoonish realistic lol.)
... well... I can't think of any other reason right now... lol...
Don't get me wrong... drawing in ink is fine and can be helpful... but remember, there's a time and place for everything!!!
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| Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:12 am |
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