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Lummox
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I don't see the "edit" button, yet it says at the bottom of the page that I can edit my posts.

Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:35 am Profile PM
fijneman
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15 minutes timer. After this u can't edit your post.

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:10 am Profile PM
Lummox
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fijneman:
15 minutes timer. After this u can't edit your post.

Is this a new feature? Because in the past I've been able to add pictures to posts that were several days old. See for example, my post in "Bath Angels" dated June 29, 2013. On that date, I posted the first three pictures; then several days later, I added the other seven.

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:29 am Profile PM
frzangel
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Yeah, it is new... and I am not happy with it.

Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:33 am Profile PM
Lummox
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frzangel:
Yeah, it is new... and I am not happy with it.

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't think it's a good idea!

Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:05 pm Profile PM
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There have been some incidents recently that make this damage control necessary.

Rest assured, this is a temporary solution and we will make editing possible again in the near future.
Please bear with us until then, if you want to add new images to a thread, just make a new post, please Smile


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Lummox:
Is this a new feature? Because in the past I've been able to add pictures to posts that were several days old. See for example, my post in "Bath Angels" dated June 29, 2013. On that date, I posted the first three pictures; then several days later, I added the other seven.
That's another aspect of editing that is discouraged because:

1. We keep track of users' read posts for them. Editing a post does not make it "new", meaning users are not notified of the addition, and will most likely ignore it as the system is marking it as "read".

2. Similarly to #1, we have an option for users to be notified through mail when new replies (presumably new content) are added to the thread. This does not happen when a post is edited.

3. And finally, edited posts do not bump threads. This means, for example, if your thread is in the 3rd page of the forum listing, editing a post in it will not affect its position in the threads listing. Instead, you should post new content in a new post, thus bringing the thread to the top of the forum listing's first page, giving the deserved attention to the new content, as well as triggering #1 and #2.

Editing is mostly to fix some typos, correct wrong data in the post or small things like such.

The edit feature has been being abused in more cases than we'd like lately so we've implemented this temporary solution until we can gear up the mods with the tools to fight off the current menace. (maybe that was a bit too dramatic but okay)

We're aware of the current issues, e.g. uploaders that keep an index of uploaded content in the OP or fix broken links, so as already mentioned, this is a temporary solution until we can implement a more sturdy and seamless way to moderate Vandalism¹.

¹ This word may not make much sense within the current rules' context, but if our long-term goals develop as we expect, you will know what I mean. I can foresee the QQ rain by then.


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Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:05 am Profile PM MSN Skype
frzangel
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I generally use "edit" in these main cases:
- replacing dead links
- updating content (eg a collection after a new sequel is released)
- fixing typos, wrong urls, wrong info, wrong password etc.

ult_combo:
The edit feature has been being abused in more cases than we'd like lately so we've implemented this temporary solution until we can gear up the mods with the tools to fight off the current menace. (maybe that was a bit too dramatic but okay)
Tam-tam-tam-tamtatmatamtamtam. (I've just provided some sound effects to the dramatic atmosphere. Razz)

Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:24 am Profile PM
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You already know our plans, so you know all that will be retained, if not enhanced Smile


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Yeah Frz, you will be able to keep updating your collections soon enough. I'll get to work on this after my current deadline, and though I'm not sure where I'll be this weekend, I should be able to develop the new moderator stuff there.


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Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:21 pm Profile PM MSN Skype
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Okay, no problem, no hurry... at least I don't have to deal with updating this week. Razz

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:57 pm Profile PM
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In another forum I saw a function to keep other people out of a thread.
They can read and choose to be updated on it, but they cant post.

If you set the system up to disallow edits after someone else posted (cant really think of any other reasons to block editing), it'll complement each other.


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@bbo the new system will be a bit more ambitious Smile


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fijneman:
15 minutes timer. After this u can't edit your post.
and when you are editing your post after about 15 minutes the timer deletes your post Shocked


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Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:37 pm Profile PM
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jacxxx:
fijneman:
15 minutes timer. After this u can't edit your post.
and when you are editing your post after about 15 minutes the timer deletes your post Shocked
Are you sure? If you submit an edit past 15 minutes after post creation, the edit is discarded and a message is shown. The post is kept as it was pre-edit.


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