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frzangel
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Summary

As the administrators said, the NB was the first stage. As it also already been said, it's function is to can reach the members more efficient. It's necessary in order to can process the next stage, the implementation of the new "file sharing system".

Ofc NB also eases other "side developments" which are not even in conceptual phase (like Ulty revealed the improvement of the "picture management system" and "site theme").

Answering MR. Question's concerns(:

jacxxx:
Well, let's hope your test will work out fine, and perhaps - next time - you can be more clear about your planning dates and times ...

jacxxx:
In a previous post it just occurred to me that in writing "tomorrow" in a planning, every new day D that I open it, the planning says I have to wait for day D+1. That's why I asked to be more explicit. Well, I want do it again.

In general: Due to the fact that LAH isn't a professional organisation and we all work on improvements in our free time, in community service, we set up liberal deadlines. It won't change as far as the tasks or events didn't significantly affect the wide range of members.

Concerning the recent test: the members only expected cooperation was to close the message box - in coordination aspects - setting up strict start date wasn't be necessary.

That is why I completely don't understand your comments, jacxxx. Especially because you seem to be able to think logically and understand concepts.

But please for the love of God spare Sat's and Ulty's time. Answering - I grade ONLY your previous comments - such unreal concerns simply hijacks their resources to deal with more important things.


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frzangel:
Concerning the recent test: the members only expected cooperation was to close the message box - in coordination aspects - setting up strict start date wasn't be necessary.
Also, Sat has set the initial ETA (1 day) before the modal development began. I don't have a problem with that, as he knows that I don't sleep until everything is working as intended from FF Nightly to IE6.

Unfortunately, that day I had a full university day and group work reviewing, so I only knew about the ETA in the next day. No problem really, my code quality and speed is what built up my rep on SO (no bragging intended Razz), but as a matter of fact, I wouldn't mind delaying the modal boxes for a week more or at least a couple days to properly test it in all possible environments.

In the end, it was a very close deadline, and as I stated before, I delayed it more than the expected for IE6 JS-disabled fallbackability and Sat was busy at work at that time. Even so, we've managed to implement it fulfilling the first ETA.

frzangel:
Concerning the recent test: the members only expected cooperation was to close the message box - in coordination aspects - setting up strict start date wasn't be necessary.
Exactly, it wasn't anything really important that'd change your life if you missed it. We just used the modal box to gather data from random registered users for a 24h period to test my analytics code comparing the regular NB to COCKBLOCK (a.k.a. Modal) NBs.
Result is that modals are over 20 times more effective in making people close them. Razz

Note: COCKBLOCK NB™ is a registered trademark of Sat@LAH


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Thanks for your summary frz, I like to be informed about the new developments of my favorite site.
And thanks for your additional info about the COCKBLOCK NB™ ult, 20x faster must result in an absolute speed record!?

About the communication about dates and times: I'm sorry that my posts disturbed some of you, the ETA just was not immediately clear to me and I tried to make that clear in a funny manner. That turned out to be a mistake, sorry for that Crying or Very sad
Meanwhile I changed the Date format in my profile to "l M d, Y G:i" so I hope I never have to struggle with the am/pm format again.



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Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:09 am Profile PM
ult_combo
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jacxxx:
for some reason the post which you are reading now ( http://littleangelshentai.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=282100#282100 ) can't be deleted right now

I can only quote or edit it Crying or Very sad Surprised
Sat said
Sat:
It is entirely possible that he cannot delete it because it is in an announcement
Not quite sure what this means either (besides a limitation to the system or bad configuration), but deleted it on request.

EDIT: I took a look on the board configs, it's configured for only Mods+ to delete posts in this forum section. That may be changed later.

EDIT2: Now registered users can delete their own posts as they do in other sections (provided it's the last post in the thread) as well as posting attachments on this forum.

On topic, yes, you can't read tones on a forum so that stuff happens. Razz

I also prefer the 24-hour format but with leading-zeroes (H instead of G), but that doesn't really matter. Very Happy


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Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:11 am Profile PM MSN Skype
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Thanks for the very quick action, guys Very Happy
  • I could now delete a previous version of the present post without any problem
  • as a 2nd test I captured an Unidentified Flying Cock-block and added it here in the pic below
  • the Date format "l M d, Y H:i" in my Profile suits me even better.


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Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:32 am Profile PM
frzangel
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Oh, so it ment to be a joke. Sorry than, I think I misunderstand you. Than I just grade your humor negative. xD

Moreover I also think the rest of your comment are useful and constructive.


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Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:29 pm Profile PM
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Thanks for letting us know about the changes taking place within the forum.

Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:11 pm Profile PM
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ult_combo in this post:
... If you ask me, the forum software is pretty damn good for a Forum.
I like the LAH-software enough to remain active here. I have no experience with other fora (or forums?), but - as remarked before - the image recognition on many other sites is more powerful (google, iqdb, saucenao, ...) and it would be very nice when we would some time upgrade to that level. Take a look e.g. at this post. At a first glance I notice that pics 8 and 9 are well known and have been posted before (and perhaps they are not the only ones). It suits me to investigate pic 8 in this Lolis captured on camera post, where I show one older post with the same picture. In the Lolis captured on camera post I remark tentatively that "in a (rather far) future, with an up to date dupe finder we'll never have to deal with that problem anymore". And I'm sure of that, but not so sure about the time scale (1 year, 10 years, still more Wink).

So far nothing new, but here I have another question: the old picture I refered to happens to be viewed over 4000 times while the other pictures in that old post and the pics in neigbouring posts are only viewed 200 - 300 times. So I think there's one or more important link(s) pointing to that old pic. Q: would it be possible (now or in the future) to find out - in an easy way - where such link(s) come from?

ult_combo in this post:
... Sure we could implement some real-time updates and such, but we have to see where it is actually needed to don't become just a waste of server resources. Suggestions are always welcome.
What are "real-time updates"? Could you give an example?

EDIT: Within the link in "that old pic" (i.e. the link http://littleangelshentai.net/forum/download.php?id=18496) the id number (= 18496) is NOT recognized by the search function when you search for "id=18496" or "18496". It is only found now because of this EDIT.


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Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:38 pm Profile PM
ult_combo
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jacxxx:
ult_combo in this post:
... If you ask me, the forum software is pretty damn good for a Forum.
I like the LAH-software enough to remain active here. I have no experience with other fora (or forums?), but - as remarked before - the image recognition on many other sites is more powerful (google, iqdb, saucenao, ...) and it would be very nice when we would some time upgrade to that level. Take a look e.g. at this post. At a first glance I notice that pics 8 and 9 are well known and have been posted before (and perhaps they are not the only ones). It suits me to investigate pic 8 in this Lolis captured on camera post, where I show one older post with the same picture. In the Lolis captured on camera post I remark tentatively that "in a (rather far) future, with an up to date dupe finder we'll never have to deal with that problem anymore". And I'm sure of that, but not so sure about the time scale (1 year, 10 years, still more Wink).
C'mon jacxxx, we've been through that image detection thing already. But I'll repeat myself a bit and add some points so Sat doesn't have to waste his time while we review the next updates.

Be serious for a moment man, you're comparing LAH to Google/SauceNAO? jacxxx-style list time (yeah I got this habit from reading your lists):
  • Google has literally hundreds of thousands of resources more than LAH has (or will ever need). Google.com is a SEARCH engine, so obviously, their search algorithm is their main and only concern.
  • SauceNAO is also a search engine, they have many image databases (as you can see on their "advanced options") solely for finding images. They don't have any concerns except finding the source of your image.
  • LAH is a FORUM, that means, the overall goal is to have people posting content and discussing, not finding images. Sub-list time to explain things better!
    • Whenever you upload an image, the server runs a very simple algorithm (it is processed in a fraction of millisecond) to check against a cache of all other uploaded images. If we were to upgrade it, it'd require MUCH more DB space and processing time, that is why Sat immediately backs off when people post the "image recognition upgrade" proposals. If you don't know why it is so bad, keep reading the next points.
    • More DB space and processing means increasing the Donation goal for every month. Donations failed a couple months this year already, I also don't think it'd be the time to increase it.
    • More processing means slower posting. You'd have an extra wait time between posting each image. Let alone the pestering with "a dupe candidate for this image was found" would be unbearable for many posters. None of this is desirable for us.
    • Again, the forum concept is to have users posting content, not finding duplicate images. For that you have very specific tools which you're already aware of. Our "image recognition software" is a simple addon that can be easily turned off, if we'd wish so. For the reasons listed here, upgrading the image detection is not in my priorities list much less Sat's. However, in 10 years or so as you say, if we make our own "SauceNAO"-like branch of LAH, we could link the main forum software to it and pester the fuck outta the posters with duplicated images. Yeah that will make everyone happy. Razz
jacxxx:
[...] Q: would it be possible (now or in the future) to find out - in an easy way - where such link(s) come from?
Possibly. The next image upload system should display linked images better than the current system and finding those then should be much easier. It is not in the top priorities atm but is being considered.

jacxxx:
What are "real-time updates"? Could you give an example?
Facebook's news feed, Youtube comments - go to a popular video, you will see the "update automatically/disable automatic updates" link.


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Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:45 pm Profile PM MSN Skype
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Thanks for your very clear and orderly listed answers, Ult. I now have a better idea of the time scales of the image recognition thing, and I'll try not to bother you again with it for the first 10 years. Be sure however that I'm not one of the users who would be pestered by the system when it would show automatically the first few closely related images already posted.


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Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:00 am Profile PM
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My words aren't written on stone, so plans may change in future. Razz But yes, this upgrade most likely won't come any time soon due to the reasons listed above.


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Heh, I know I may be a bit late to the party, but thanks Feather Kawaii 3 you guys put so much work into LAH to really make it feel like a special place, and it really shows. Long live LAH Feather Kawaii 3

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Haha, no worries. There will be a proper announcement post tomorrow Smile


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I love the new icons Gecko, respect! (:


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