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Christopher
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Someone is going to have to stand up to Bush on this. The law that you are apparently referring to, the obscenity provision to an older law that was added, flies DIRECTLY in the path of numerous decisions by the Supreme Court in the COPA and CPPA cases!

They specifically said that 'virtual' you-know-what was legal, because no child was used in it! Bush is stretching the law WAAAAAAY past the breaking point, and so are the sock puppets in Congress.

Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:09 am Profile PM
tomoe
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If bush is using the protect act the only part of LAH that can come under any critique is the story section. That is remedied by putting in a rule that only stories about anime characters can be written and nothing that might be considered based on real life. For the rest of the site there is nothing in it that can be attacked by the protect act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.151: or http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:6:./temp/~c108lFqvwR: :read it carefully you will see that lolicon is legal in America.
Also the protect has not been approved by the supreme court nor has it yet been challenged.

Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:36 am Profile PM MSN Skype
shutendoji
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All I can say is that I am deeply sorry for the ignorant behavior of my countrymen (as well as, of course, countrywomen), that allowed that idiot and his repressionist junta to remain in charge until 2009.

Not enough of us saw through his smokescreen of lies to keep him from being declared the winner of the 2004 election.

I did what I could (which obviously was NOT enough). But then, I am just one person. (the voices in my head don't count. I asked.)


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Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:42 am Profile PM
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Well, we already had the thing with the story section. It will stay as it is.


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Zevs
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Let's prod freespeechcoalition.org? The site isn't loading for me for some reason, btw..


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Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:39 pm Profile PM WWW
ObsidianJoy
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Even if Bush does make loli illegal, I'll still look at it. I'm not afraid of him. But with the way things are going, I bet it will stay legal. I dont think the supreme court will want to bother with the trouble of making it illegal since it violates the first amendmant.


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Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:28 pm Profile PM
dizzy
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random american bush :S

where is the host now btw?

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:12 pm Profile PM
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Still america, but... we're working on it Razz


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Shinigami
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hold on. so, it still is legal?
my understanding was that the law was changed so, it could be stretched to target lolicon... or, Im probably wrong.

Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:58 am Profile PM WWW
tomoe
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Yes Loli is still legal in America. Has long has it can be distinguished from real life pictures. In other words you have to be able to instantly tell that the pic is not real.

Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:11 am Profile PM MSN Skype
Bastille
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I think the majority of it has to do with the people who allow people to host the stuff would be labeled as pedos by the media and such if it ever came to a court trial because the majority of the world couldn't tell the difference between a child molestor and someone who looks at lolicon if their life depended on it.

Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:46 pm Profile PM AIM
Christopher
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tomoe:
If bush is using the protect act the only part of LAH that can come under any critique is the story section. That is remedied by putting in a rule that only stories about anime characters can be written and nothing that might be considered based on real life. For the rest of the site there is nothing in it that can be attacked by the protect act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.151: or http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:6:./temp/~c108lFqvwR: :read it carefully you will see that lolicon is legal in America.
Also the protect has not been approved by the supreme court nor has it yet been challenged.

Read the warning on ASSTR. They specifically say "We have consulted with our lawyers, and the PROTECT Act does NOT apply to non-real visual depictions of children in sex, OR stories."
They are hosted right in the United States, so I think they and their lawyer know what they are talking about.

As I have said before, Bush is pushing the law past the snapping point and then some. Someone, somewhere is going to have to stand up to him, and challenge him on this!

Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:02 am Profile PM
Christopher
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Bastille:
I think the majority of it has to do with the people who allow people to host the stuff would be labeled as pedos by the media and such if it ever came to a court trial because the majority of the world couldn't tell the difference between a child molestor and someone who looks at lolicon if their life depended on it.

Maybe because there is no difference. I am getting tired of people saying there is a difference, if we are going to defend our rights, we are going to have to ally with people like NAMBLA and NAMGLA, who are preaching pretty good common sense.

Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:04 am Profile PM
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Christopher, you are wrong. There is a difference. I know many of you are pedophiles, but there are also types of lolikons who are getting really dicusted by any real depictions. Please accept these guys and don't mix them together with the "normal" pedophiles.

I am slowly beginning to dislike where this thread is going. Mods, please keep a good eye on it.


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Wolfzero
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yes sir! my finger is on the ban button and im not afraid to fire!!!!!1111one

Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:06 am Profile PM YIM ICQ
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